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Provenance meeting with Norman on 05/03/2008

Minutes

  • T1 model
    • lack of a formal description

  • OPM model
    • import / export
    • How do our requirements map to the OPM
      • What does the OPM support?
      • What does it lack?

  • Khalid's document has already been distributed.
  • Paolo's document will be circulated between us later this week.
  • Stuart and Ians documents need aligning.
  • Need to characterise queries.
  • Stuart wishes to split the 3rd use case (incremental and interactive debugging) into 2 use cases - the first being a simpler version of the current use case that only supports running a worfklow to completion.
  • Debugging use case 5 (correct/incorrect usage of a processor) highlights the need to query over multiple provenance executions. This raises questions of how provenance is stored (1 store instance for each run, or all runs in a single store).
  • In most use cases the queries need to be interactive - this creates particular performance constraints.

  • All documents will be circulated together on Friday. Rather than as attachments to a single email, we will gather them in a wiki page for circulation.
  • Need to encourage feedback.
  • Stuart will physically hand Carole the documents.

  • Need to start prototyping:
    • what are the particular queries?
    • document:
      • example queries
      • our limitations
      • problems?

  • Security? Our final document needs to provide a statement on security assumptions.
    • Strawman Proposal:
      • (1) Each workflow writes provenance to a provenance store set by the person running the workflow.
      • (2) The person running the workflow must have permission to write to that store.
      • (3) The responsibility for permissions at a finer grain that the store is out of scope for Taverna.
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