*Mercury room*

Minutes

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Minutes: KM

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1. Apologies

2. Previous minutes and matters arising( none).

3. Actions (none)

4. Summary and discussion of Friday’s AG session

Robert provided a summary of AG meeting proceeds and summary of current needs and priorities. Three main issues were discussed: Notification; discovery; provinence, and the emergence of personalisation from this. A definition of terms is required

Provenance – simple provinance will come out of Netbeams and XML file. Foci on MIR would be nice to show. This will take some re-engineering. Notion of provinance itself was discussed (history of actions/experiments and the organisation of this data). Robert noted clarification is required for views over MIR/provenance and views integrated into Netbeams (simple provinance searching). Dicsussion followed as to division of labour and whom could proceed with database SQL querying. Nedim will check with Norman for authorisation to proceed with this.

4.1 Action NA: Discuss work on SQL querying with Norman.

Notification

1. Scenario. Technical procedure was discussed. Nedim is working on the database side of this. Milena should be informed of her role; the notification client is responsible to render object.

2. Discovery service. Manchester & Southampton working on notification from registry. Simon Miles has the registry code running. This will be available as a seb service soon. Some discussion of current lack of notification of what/when changes occur in registry, views, registries and automation of these. Phil and Chris plan to visit Southampton to work on registry. This is planned for 2nd week of May. Mark Wilkinson and Mike Niemi will be here at the end of May. Martin Senger has some metadata written and will need to submit this to the registry. Chris will extend PEDRO in order to register ‘other’ non-semantic information. Formatting of semantic information into registry was also discussed. FIND service and workflow service issue was addressed. This should be postponed to post-June. It was generally agreed that it is a good idea to semantically describe services and workflows in the Graves disease scenario. Peter is uploading lots of data (bionformatic and Graves disease) and this would be good to have in the ontology.

3. Data types. Chris Wroe will co-ordinate with Chris Greenhalgh in Nottingham on this work. They will also work on classification data wizard.

4. Visualisation of workflow. Will use Tom’s SCUFLE language & WSFL. This can be used in Netbeams. Tom is working on this. It is important to be able to edit workflows. Access to ENSEMBLE was questioned due to Talisman and WSFL. A 3-tiered system was noted; 1. web service type system 2. conceptual type system based on ontology 3. mind type system.

It was noted that ‘TO DO’ lists are required for each task. These should show who is responsible for each task.

4.2 Action. Co-ordinate TO DO lists with names of those responsible for each task.

It was generally held that we are able to produce a decent demo for ISMB. It is important that everyone works on, and knows their responsibility for the appropriate tasks that will achieve this.

5. Workpackage progress (addressed in 4)

6. Meeting/writing opportunities.

· Dr Bruno Sobral visit on 20th/21st May. Agenda?

· Virinder Batra visit on 1st May (Southampton)

· Rendering Knowledge from Proteomics and Genomics, November 9th – 12th 2003. Virginia.

· Face2face Investigators meeting in Sheffield. Thursday 8th May 12pm – 6pm & Friday 9th May 2003 9am – 4.30pm.

5.1 Action NS. Send agenda for Investigators meeting to Karon.

· All Hands demos/abstracts are due for 1st June 2003.

1. 1. Any other business

Security will be an issue in the future. Southampton will be required to address this at some point. Neil and Guo visited from Sheffield. PESTO is up as a web service. Mark is working on workflows. Discussion of I.D’s and confusion about these. We are using MEDLINE and Sheffield have been using PUBLINE. Sheffield will now support both.

Next meeting. Monday 12th May 2003. 10am in Mercury.

Summary of Actions

4.1 Action NA: Discuss work on SQL querying with Norman.

4.2 Action. Co-ordinate TO DO lists with names of those responsible for each task.

5.1 Action NS. Send agenda for Investigators meeting to Karon.